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[182] On September 8, 2014, Ryanair agreed to 100 firm orders with 100 options. [113] The new nacelles being larger and more forward possess aerodynamic properties which act to further increase the pitch rate. I”ve never claimed to be “perfect,” or an “expert,” but what I know comes from 40+ years in the high tech engineering industry and through some eight successful startups (including IPOs and M&As) … I’ve done trench-level engineering designs of very complex systems as well as high level management (including CEO) of startups that have transformed the lives of literally Billions on Earth … so do you think that I just “might” have some grounding to make the comments that I did about this topic? For me the 787 and 747 are OK in terms of comfort; the 777 is still bearable but far below best in class. Now, I am not saying that Boeing is faultless. I find your comments interesting. Here we go again with all of those calling for Boeing to do a “clean sheet” design of a new aircraft to replace the 737-MAX — understand that doing a “clean sheet” design currently takes minimally 6-years of elapsed time to do the design, build prototypes, test and debug the prototypes, get everything certified, and finally transition into production! @Justin — “… such as poor maintenance (Lion Air) and poor crew training and insufficient experience (Lion Air and Ethiopian). Again stretching the limits. United plans to use the Boeing 737 Max 10 as a replacement for its very old fleet of 15 Boeing 757 aircraft. It turns out that SE Asia and Africa suffer from shortages of sufficiently experienced airline pilots and some airlines, therefore, will put co-pilots into revenue flights with inadequate training and experience, unlike in other regions such as Australia, North Asia, North America, Europe, etc. You sound like a crazy person with American ideological Tourette’s Syndrome. You just can’t resist them, can you? After all, it’s stretched and pulled as far as one could possibly do to a 55 year old design. It would have needed to be so much better to compete and there wasn’t any indication a clean sheets design would be that much better than the NEOs, just much more expensive. [128] The MAX 7 took off for its first flight on March 16, 2018, from the factory in Renton, Washington and flew for three hours over Washington state. it offers lower trips costs than the competition, the lowest trip costs, which minimizes the risk airlines take on as they grow. What Boeing did was to mess that up in their Implementation with MCAS! As for your continuing criticism of my using exclamation points, I’ve now decided that you can use those the way that YOU want to, and I’m going to just use them the way that I want to! [173] The MAX 10 has similar capacity as A321XLR, but shorter range and much poorer field performance in smaller airports than A321XLR. I didn’t mention ANY names and You jumped right in and freaked out! [5] The first 737 MAX 8 was delivered to Malindo Air on May 16, 2017. That’s more important to me than my “style” (which is subjective, anyway). [107], In November 2011, Boeing selected the larger fan diameter, necessitating a 6–8 in (150–200 mm) longer nose landing gear. The Boeing 737 MAX was subject to a worldwide grounding in March of 2019 following two deadly crashes that killed 346 people. I think they just put the wing more in the back to make more aerodynamic effects on the fuselage. If I did my arithmetic correctly, this means that the 737-MAX took around 5-years 9-months to finish and Airbus NEO took around 6-years 2-months to finish … and 737-MAX still got to market much later than the Airbus NEO by 1-year 4-months. [112] A new bleed air digital regulator will improve its reliability. With respect to being an “expert” — about 95%+ of what I’m seeing posted on various forums about this topic have been emotional crap that have no bearing on reality! Airbus pranged several A320 before they got their fly-by-wire working properly. The 737-700, -800 and -900ER, the most widespread versions of the previous 737NG, are succeeded by the 737 MAX 7, MAX 8 and MAX 9, respectively (FAA type certificate: 737-7, -8, and -9 ). As you can see, the 737 MAX 10 is the highest capacity but also the shortest range variant of the MAX family. Register here to save your space. [15] In June 2010, a decision on this replacement was postponed into 2011. It remains a mystery to me why Boeing cannot get their planes at the same comfort and noise levels as Airbus, but maybe this is greed driven and they do not invest and innovate enough. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. It makes no sense. [32], On August 13, 2015, the first 737 MAX fuselage completed assembly at Spirit Aerosystems in Wichita, Kansas, for a test aircraft that would eventually be delivered to launch customer Southwest Airlines. [24] Studies for additional drag reduction were performed during 2011, including revised tail cone, natural laminar flow nacelle, and hybrid laminar flow vertical stabilizer. [158], In October 2016, Boeing's board of directors granted authority to offer the stretched variant with two extra fuselage sections forward and aft with a 3,100 nautical miles (3,600 mi; 5,700 km) range reduced from 3,300 nautical miles (3,800 mi; 6,100 km) of the -9. [105], In 2011, the Leap-1B was initially 10–12% more efficient than the previous 156 cm (61 in) CFM56-7B of the 737NG. [114] This was necessary to meet Boeing's internal objective of minimizing training requirements for pilots already qualified on the 737NG. It’s MY right to express however I want to, anyway! Obviously I was not referring to planes falling out of the sky! Airline training programs will also require approval. The 737 MAX was grounded in March 2019, and the grounding was not lifted until November 2020, after Boeing made significant safety upgrades and improvements in pilot training. “The 737 MAX 10 will enable us to continue using larger and more efficient aircraft within our domestic network and better meet the needs of our customers,” United Chief Financial Officer Andrew Levy said. @Alex_77W — “… I wouldn’t panic when getting on board of a re-certified B737MAX but would think twice when choosing between carries in South East Asia or Africa….” —, You are absolutely correct in your multiple observations! Boeing predicts the MAX 7 to carry 12 more passengers 400 nmi (740 km) farther than A319neo with 7% lower operating costs per seat. [177], In November 2014, Boeing talked about developing a clean sheet aircraft to replace the 737. [157] In September 2016, it was reported that the variant would be simpler and lower-risk with a modest stretch of 6–7 ft (1.83–2.13 m) for a length of 143–144 ft (43.6–43.9 m), seating 12–18 more passengers for 192–198 in a dual-class layout or 226-232 for a single class, needing an uprated 31,000 lbf (140 kN) CFM LEAP-1B that could be available by 2019, or 2020, and would likely require a landing-gear modification to move the rotation point slightly aft. Or are you going to just pile on with inanities about my writing style? [155], To compete with the Airbus A321neo, loyal customers such as Korean Air and United Airlines pressed Boeing to develop a larger variant than the MAX 9, of which Boeing revealed studies in early 2016. So one could argue which design is more outdated. Er…! The MAX 7 and MAX 200 (a higher density version of the MAX 8) were expected to enter service in 2019, and the MAX 10 in 2020. After being charged with fraud, Boeing settled to pay over $2.5 billion. Opinions expressed here are the author's alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. Everyone now forgets the Max flew safely for years before the inability of two aircrews to actually “fly an aircraft” created the sad loss of life. This high margin was made possible by the efficiencies of production volume and the amortization of development costs and capital investment over the decades of the program run. Walk the dog. The 737 MAX 8 entered service in May 2017, and the MAX 9 entered service in March 2018. [159] Boeing 737 MAX Vice President and General Manager Keith Leverkuhn said the design had to be frozen in 2018, for a 2020 introduction. I now see NO POINT to conforming on that, anymore! As for Boeing stock, it’s a safe bet due to Boeing being too big to fail. The MAX7 had an employee-only event and that rolled out before the MAX drama. The new engine had a larger air intake diameter that required its mounting to change significantly from the older engine! [202], The subsequent findings in the Ethiopian Airlines crash and the Lion Air crash led to the Boeing 737 MAX groundings across the world. For my own flights I definitely prefer planes that always function instead of mostly. How its performance could impact flights to Hawaii", "Which routes does the Boeing 737 MAX fly, and what are my options if I'm booked on one? About BenBen Schlappig (aka Lucky) is a travel consultant, blogger, and avid points collector. What in God’s holy name are you blathering about? The first airline to resume regular passenger service was Brazilian low-cost Gol, on December 9, 2020. 1A002 was used for performance and engine testing: climb and landing performance, crosswind, noise, cold weather, high altitude, fuel burn and water-ingestion. I guess BA has many other things going well because I would think if the MAX was the only thing, no way the price would be at 371 and climbing steadily all day. United Airlines has resumed taking deliveries Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. Passenger flights are expected to resume in the U.S. by the end of the year; deliveries can resume and production is expected to ramp up slowly. The Final Investigation Report on the Lion Air crash dished out plenty of blame to go around (Boeing and FAA included) — but it also focused on the fact that the co-pilot had inadequate flight experience to properly help the pilot handle such an anomalous situation that resulted in a (very unfortunate) crash … it reported that, when the pilot handed control of the aircraft to the co-pilot, in order to attend to another matter, the co-pilot had no idea of what to do in order to properly sustain the anomalous flight behavior on his own … furthermore, the same issue of training and experience was also found with the co-pilot on the Ethiopian Air crash …. [98], In mid-2011, the objective was to match the A320neo's 15% fuel burn advantage. [180][181] By December 2011, the 737 MAX had 948 commitments and firm orders from thirteen customers. [147] Similar to Ryanair, VietJet has chosen to designate its aircraft as 737-8. Wing in the back nose go to be more heavy an it would ” ” Keep de nose down. ———————————————————————————————————————– Fortunately, since MCAS is predominantly software, and the hardware in place can most likely continue to function with the newly fixed MCAS implementation, the process to transition into re-certification can be more readily accomplished than if significant hardware revamping were to be required! [5] The MAX 7 seems to have fewer than 100 orders among over 4,300 MAX total sales. Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. The Boeing 737 MAX is the fourth generation of the Boeing 737, a narrow-body airliner manufactured by Boeing Commercial Airplanes (BCA). In 2006, Boeing started considering the replacement of the 737 with a "clean-sheet" design that could follow the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. Furthermore, there is nothing inherently wrong about continuing to use an existing airframe, if it is still up to the task, since the manufacturing tooling and supply bases can respond much more quickly and smoothly to transition the new version into production! If the Boeing 737 MAX receives re-certification soon, United says it could take 16 aircraft this year and 24 planes in 2021. [179], American Airlines was the first disclosed customer. Anything other than aeroplanes! I was originally planning on using a 787 for my 250th photo on Airliners, but the moment here, as the first 737 MAX to receive its air worthiness certificate following the 20 month grounding, making a safe landing at Boeing field. [47], The largest part of the suppliers cost are the aerostructures with US$10–12M (35-34% of the US$ 28.5-35 M total), followed by the engines with US$7–9M (25-26%), systems and interiors with US$5–6M each (18-17%), then avionics with US$1.5–2M (5-6%). Note that, despite the best schedule planning, suppliers can radically disrupt that schedule, as witness the GE-9X engine delays impacting the 777-X program! While these kinds of events are usually full of media, in this case it seemed to be more of an employee event, intended to highlight their accomplishments and recognize the efforts of teams that went into the production of this plane. [39] The new spar-assembly line is designed by Electroimpact. For whatever reasons, some people just will not accept that anything else, except Boeing, could possibly be at fault with those crashes! [100] A MAX 8 with 162 passengers on a 3,000 nmi (5,600 km) flight is to have up to a 1.8% better fuel burn than a blended-winglet-equipped aircraft and 1% over 500 nmi (930 km) at Mach 0.79.[100]. Before the aircraft can resume service, repairs must be implemented per a forthcoming airworthiness directive from the FAA. Wow…Boeing PR team is on overdrive this morning. [149], Airlines have been shown a 737-8ERX concept based on the 737 MAX 8 with a higher 194,700 lb (88.3 t) maximum take-off weight using wings, landing gear and central section from the MAX 9 to provide a longer range of 4,000 nautical miles (4,600 mi; 7,400 km) with seating for 150, closer to the Airbus A321LR. [167], The variant configuration was firmed up by February 2018,[168] and by mid-2018, the critical design review was completed. Think the swing wing 300 seater supersonic, that trunced the Concorde worldwide [6], On November 18, 2020, the FAA announced that the MAX had been cleared to return to service. [92], On August 19, 2020, Boeing announced that it had received new orders for the 737 MAX for the first time in 2020. In retrospect, Boeing’s issues with the 737 started years before the MAX was announced. So I wouldn’t panic when getting on board of a re-certified B737MAX but would think twice when choosing between carries in South East Asia or Africa…. This site is for entertainment purposes only. The new MAX 10 can hold up to 230 passengers and is 66 inches longer than its predecessor, the MAX 9. Lucky, you need to edit the “Bottom Line” section…, @John — “Are you seriously content to fly a plane that ‘mostly’ functions? [22] As this sale included a Most-Favoured-Customer Clause, Airbus has to refund any difference to American if it sells to another airline at a lower price, so the European manufacturer cannot give a competitive price to competitor United Airlines, leaving it to a Boeing-skewed fleet. My goodness. He chronicles his adventures, along with industry news, here at One Mile at a Time. Are you all about “Form” over “Substance”? [187][188] By November 30, 2020, orders had declined to 4,039 and the backlog to 3,290 after accounting adjustments recognizing orders unlikely to be filled.[5][189]. This is where the CEO needs to make hard decisions. ———————————————————————————————————————— On November 18, 2020, the FAA cleared the MAX to return to service once necessary design modifications have been made. [30], The 737 MAX extended spoilers are fly-by-wire controlled. The 737 MAX family is designed to offer the greatest flexibility, reliability and efficiency in the single-aisle market. [200] Evidence retrieved on the crash site suggests that, at the time of the crash, the aircraft was configured to dive, similar to Lion Air Flight 610. I couldn’t tell that that was a joke … oh well! Developing a new airliner is much much more than just advocating a “clean sheet” design! Following the Lion Air crash, Boeing issued an operational manual guidance, advising airlines on how to address erroneous cockpit readings. Its’ Boeing 737 MAX 9 features 159 seats, 20 first-class seats, 48 premium economy seats, and 111 economy seats. Boeing claims that the plane has the lowest seat-mile cost of any single-aisle airplane ever produced. [152] It was presented at the 2017 Paris Air Show. I do not know many other examples of companies who can milk a 60 year old design without any further innovation. I am a big aviation fan and would love to ensure this Max issues is adequately resolved. 737 MAX 10 is the perfect answer to the need for growth while maintaining maximum airline profitability. Wow… there’s a lot of professional business advisors in the comments tonight. Then there’s the “Dream” liner – battary fires, numerous landing problems, and now talk of insufficient oxygen for pax. [136], In September 2014, Boeing launched a high-density version of the 737 MAX 8, the 737 MAX 200, named for seating for up to 200 passengers in a single-class high-density configuration with slimline seats; an extra pair of exit doors is required because of the higher passenger capacity. [54] Boeing suspended 737 MAX flights on May 4,[55] and resumed flights on May 12. The “preferred” way to address this issue would have been to design a brand new landing gear to give the body of the 737 higher ground clearance, but that would have greatly delayed the program by creating new conditions upon its future operations and therefore would have mandated totally new pilot training and certification processes, thus further delaying entry into service! It was created as a response to the Airbus A321neo. Good Grief! [80], CFM International reduced production of the 737 MAX's CFM LEAP-1B, in favor of the A320neo's LEAP-1A, but is prepared to meet demand for both aircraft. [73][74], From mid-April 2019, the company announced it was temporarily cutting production of the 737 aircraft from 52 per month to 42 amid the Boeing 737 MAX groundings. If you want a plane that works 100% of the time, then you will never fly. Wow. I WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER FLY THE MAX. Yes, this is hurting the company and who knows about the future. It is important to consider the other factors, however, such as poor maintenance (Lion Air) and poor crew training and insufficient experience (Lion Air and Ethiopian). The first aircraft was delivered from the facility to Air China on December 15, 2018. [38] Boeing planned to increase its 737 MAX monthly production rate from 42 planes in 2017, to 57 planes by 2019. The Electroimpact automated panel assembly line sped up the wing lower-skin assembly by 35%. I am personally in the party that won’t be happy flying the new MAX until they have been flying a decent number of frames for 1-2 years. [192][193] People familiar with the investigation reported that during a flight piloted by a different crew on the day before the crash, the same aircraft experienced a similar malfunction but an extra pilot sitting in the cockpit jumpseat correctly diagnosed the problem and told the crew how to disable the malfunctioning Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) flight-control system. Boeing has formally launched the 737 MAX 10, which is the largest and shortest range variant of the 737 MAX 10. Investigations faulted cover-up of a known defect by Boeing and lapses in the certification by the FAA. So yall instead target their geopolitics of the not being part of the 1st-world being Southeast Asia and Africa? You sound unhinged and not a little obsessed. Outside of banner ads published through the Boarding Area network, this compensation does not impact how and where products appear on this site. 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